WHY TORAH, BIBLE, QURAN, ARE ALL FICTION

In a reaction to a video on the Africa Enlightenment Centre YouTube Channel @SqwarkParrotSpittingFeathers wrote: The Torah, bible, Quran are no evidence. If the bible is egregiously faulty then the main character’s existence is likely fantasy. If the existence of Yahweh/Allah is a fiction (Muslims believe in the first five books of the Old Testament) then the god man/prophet Jesus cannot stand, nor any Abrahamic Prophet, such as Muhammad.

Faith (belief without evidence) based on the contents of the bible/Quran is suspect, for the following reasons…

Of the Canaanite gods. El was the top god (sort of Roman Saturn) Ba’al (Jupiter) was next, then down the line was the war/storm god Yahweh (Mars). The Jews nicked him and made him the creator.

The first line of the bible is clearly incorrect. The Earth was formed at least 9.8 billion years after the heavens. How did the creator get that wrong? And, the rest of the creation is wrong. It’s as if an ancient ignorant tribe wrote it all by themselves. &, it takes light 2.5 million years to travel from Andromeda galaxy (seen with the naked eye from Earth by ancient Jews) to Earth. That makes the actual heavens older than biblical heavens. The bible a man made fiction?

There are no waters above the firmament. Heaven isn’t up there either, we’ve been there. The tribes of the Middle East wouldn’t have known oceans would be frozen but for the heat of the sun. Yet, in the biblical account, water filled the oceans and outer space, all with no sun, and the light that made up the day was created before the sun? The ancient Jews had no concept the sun caused day and night onto a rotating Earth. The moon isn’t a light. It’s fiction by an ignorant tribe with no access to a god or reality.

Adam was made from dirt by magic and he, this god, forgot about Eve, an afterthought. so not an all knowing and wise god then?

Snakes and donkeys talk, nonsense fiction, right up there with Harry Potter, though JK Rowling was clearly a better writer with fewer continuity errors.

This god set up Eve by placing this magic apple within her reach, before she knew right from wrong. Then punished humanity thereafter. What a vicious god, if not a fictional one?

Nonsense fiction, by an ignorant ancient people writing about their mythology, their nation’s origins, steeped in the mists of the past, just the same as the Greek, Persian and Babylonian cultures write about their make believe gods who were equally fervently worshipped. Inanna, the dying and rising goddess was such an example, worshiped for 2,500 years. With more dying and rising gods in the lexicon of ancient myths. Virgin births were pretty common too. Romulus and Remus, twin founders of Rome, born of the virgin Rhea Silvia. In ancient Egypt, Ra (the Sun) was born of a virgin mother, Net; Horus was the son of the virgin Isis. The Phrygo-Roman god, Attis, was born of a virgin, Nana, on December 25. He went on to be killed and was resurrected.

Adam and Eve’s children (as Eve was a clone of Adam) and grandchildren (as Cain, Able and Seth only had Eve to produce offspring or with their unknown sisters) could only have been produced by incest, then double incest, according to the biblical account. But, as Eve was a clone of Adam, there would be no genetic diversity. Such a lack of diversity would have meant the death of the human species, ask the Hapsburgs. But then, their created god wouldn’t have known about genetics?

The Exodus didn’t happen according to all evidence, acknowledged by the Jewish archaeologists who have tried to find it. The Egyptians never wrote of their army being swallowed by the sea. Mosses may never existed.

There is a massive amount of genocide in the bible by a god who failed to get the locals to behave. Genocide because the Israelites needed a land to make home. If a creator of the universe and humans could have just thought a new land, a new island, south of Cyprus, it would have appeared. Easy for a god, not so for an ancient tribe to pull off? Then, this god could have told these others how to behave and punished individuals, if that’s what was needed. But no, he went straight to mass murder. What?

And, the greatest god in the universe was defeated by iron chariots: Judges1:19. That is so ridiculous, such a puny god. Or, is it because the story was a creation of a tribe that had no concept of future technologies or tactics to defeat these new Iron Age chariots? I’m sure that a human Napoleon type tactician could have done better.

Genesis 19 tells us of Lot being raped by this daughters. And yet this god is moral? He could have changed the course of their predicament, found him a younger wife or servant to sleep with, if a god. More incest. No respect for genetics?

A blood sacrifice barbaric religion.

The books that were supposedly written by Mosses consist of a linguistic style that didn’t exist at the time of his “life”. It’s a fictitious narrative, written by the Jews to give their new nation an historical legitimacy, and unify them, in the midst of other powerful cultures in the Middle East. Didn’t help much though, they were constantly being invaded and subjugated by more powerful “gods” of other warring nations. Even Yahweh acknowledged there were other gods.

Remember the Ten Commandments tablets that were conveniently broken and then without fuss, lost. An all powerful creator of the universe who missed the opportunity to create the tablets out of an advanced technology, Titanium or, something really exotic perhaps? Is that because the Jews didn’t know about such a thing with no understanding of the future? The forging and preservation of such a technology would have cemented the truth of their god. Broken conveniently disappeared stone tablets: clearly, no god involved.

Noah and his flood occurred when the Egyptians where going about their cultural and religious practices that continued afterwards; and, their religion was not replaced by the flood family’s immediate ancestors, fanning out from the ark. The Pharaohs and their gods continued unabated. No Yahweh? More incest? Another genetic bottleneck?

The Chinese culture and writing developed along a continuum and they too were never taken the religion of Yahweh from the Middle East, by Noah’s relatives. Odd, don’t you think? Do you think?

And, the ancient Britons and Australians failed to notice they were meant to be dead.

The New Testament, if it is read, critically, is inconsistent and evolves over time.

Indeed, the gospels were not written for decades after the death of this Jesus, whose birth and death are still questionable and no date can be asserted with clarity.

There’s no evidence that all the first born were killed either in Egypt nor by Herod. I think the Egyptians would have recorded such a calamity and the calamities of the plagues, but nothing. Was it all made up?

There is real historical evidence of John the Baptist, but not of the greater Jesus. There is historical evidence of Apollonius of Tyana, who allegedly ascended to heaven, similar to Jesus, but there is no extra biblical evidence of Jesus during his lifetime. There is an historical record of Jesus Ben Pandira but, no Jesus the Galilean outside of the bible. Nothing. There’s Jesus ben Ananias, a rude peasant, who went around Jerusalem in 66CE prophesying its fall in 70CE; he’s recorded in documents outside the bible, but not the biblical Jesus. His alleged disciples never wrote anything they were uneducated peasants. Contemporaries never recorded his miracles nor his troublesome nature. The bible account says he was widely known and a divisive figure that the Romans never recorded. Neither did the Jews.

And, the crucified were left to rot on the cross/pole on which they were hung as a warning to insurrectionists? No empty tomb, it’s a fiction to turn a myth into a “fact”. To turn a dead man or a fictional man into god.

Pilate was, in real history, recorded history, a truly nasty contemptuous man, he would never have allowed a crucified body’s removal to undermine its purpose as a warning. And, the alleged trial is a tale of the blood cult of scapegoating. Even Barabbus was a literary device representing scapegoating, suggesting it never occurred. Barabbus means, son of the teacher, or son of the father. The gospel writers where representing the two characters as essentially the same, one became the goat sacrifice. And, the twist was that the Jews shouted to let the murderer go, allowing the blame for Jesus’s death to be placed on the Jews and not the imperial Romans. It was very much a political narrative because the Jews and Romans where essentially at war, the destruction of the Temple in 70AD/CE, and this new sect/cult needed to distinguish themselves from the Jewish troublemakers, and the ongoing violence of the time.

Paul never knew Jesus and only depicted him as a spiritual vision. He knew nothing of the man and nothing of his life or his teachings. More evidence that the Chrestos (anointed) was mythical?

The gospel writers are unknown. The church gave them names years later. The first time the gospels were mentioned was in 180AD/CE by Irenaeus. Indeed, a very prominent Christian, Theophilus of Antioch (Feast day 13 October, died circa 184 AD/CE) said that he came to believe in Jesus from reading the Jewish Scriptures or, Torah. No mention of the gospels, no quoting of anything Jesus allegedly said. That’s really odd because a conversation with a Christian today invokes quotes from the bible. Best date for the gospels is circa, 170-182 AD/CE. The myth of the god man Jesus was created over many years. Mark was first written, not until at least 70AD/CE, say Christian scholars but, as above, likely much later.

No record of the star of Bethlehem, of graves emptying, or sky darkening. It’s fiction. No Mosses, Abraham, no Noah, no Flood. As for flying horses in the Quran, that’s straight out of Greek mythology. No one should believe such nonsense today.